Jim Skelton out at ShopNBC?

October 12, 2009

Further research as well as Skelton’s on air performance last night, leads me to believe that he will be out at ShopNBC by years end.

In Tim Temple’s original tweet he mentions being asked by senior management to return. On a post that he left on the timetechtalk forums, he made it clear that it was not the otherway around. The post also dryly states that any other source is hearsay. I believe that was in regard to the post that Jim Skelton left on the forum that he co-owns, watchgeeks.net, where in he suggests that Temple has returned to pick up off hour shows. Someone graciously added that post to my original blog, Tim Temple Returns to ShopNBC. I never believed that for a minute. This is retail – it’s all about sales and if ShopNBC management is going after Temple, there is a problem.

Tim Temple also alludes to his building of a watch program on ShopNBC on the forum post. One hopes it includes Avi from JTV.

Last nights watch presentation added more fuel to the fire.

The Outfit. Jim is usually impeccably dressed, even when he’s dressed down. Last night he looked more the part of craft services than on air talent. From the old pullover to the painfully tight, circa 1988 nut hugger jeans, he looked terrible. Believe me, I didn’t want to look at his giant package; but he seemed to be positioning it in the shots of the 24 slot winder box that he was airing, seemingly looking at angles in the monitor and re-adjusting to maximize the effect.

The Tattoo and The Set. Mr. Skelton appears to be solidly a company man. It is evident to anyone that watches his presentations for any length of time that he is heavily tattooed. And on the odd occasions that his ink ended up on the air, he would quickly hide the exposed art. But not last night. Viewers were treated to long shots of the huge Celtic knot on the back of his neck as he turned around and openly mocked the Christmas tree that was on set behind him. I believe it was the 6′ version of the tree that the network was featuring all weekend. His tone was very mocking and cynical which is very uncharacteristic of his on air personality.

Contract Talk. My wife was watching with me and believed I was reading too much into it, but when he made the comment that follows, even her eyebrows raised. He was advertising a show that he was doing later in the week and said something to the extent that he didn’t want to be there but was contractually obligated. That was a jaw dropped.

And those callers. Normally viewers do call in and stroke the host and brand rep if they’re cohosting. I’ve often wondered if all of these calls were legit, because some of them are clearly staged. But last night, the calls were too over the top. If you’re a football fan and the proverbial “man’s man”, there is no way in hell you’re flipping away from your favorite NFL or NHL team to watch a guy hawking watches. I might just live watches more than 98% of the watch collectors out their, having started collecting with a Swiss Made Bradley Big Bird watch when I was 7 (Which I still have), but I’m not leaving the Steeler game to watch Chinese made Stuhrlings! It’s just not gonna happen. And that is exactly what last nights callers alluded to! Nearly every one of them; so going so far as to suggest that they’ve bought 2 watches every few days. Skelton played up the loyalty bit, saying “loyalty” nearly 50 times as well as reiterating the high sales volume. It was easy to see where he was going with that.

So what went wrong? Skelton would continually predict sellouts that never happened. Thus, sales for sometime have not been great. This is probably exacerbated by the downturn. I really don’t remember that happening to Mr.Temple and I’m sure it isn’t just me that notices. I don’t dislike Jim Skelton but do find his involvement with designs for various brands a bit over the top and “too much”. It also presents a problem for ShopNBC management because any quality issues or bad customer service experience related to a particular watch brand are now synonymous with the network as Skelton ties the two together. He is ShopNBC to most viewers

Add to that the continual marketing of his side project, the watchgeek forums. He is openly competing with ShopNBC. There are sales forums and the bulk of the membership is ShopNBC viewers which means some of those individuals will buy from ShopNBC and then flip the watch in the forums at a discount to other forum members who are not buying from the network.

Pride is also a big part of Mr.Skelton’s problem as I think it was for Tim Temple and any popular shopping channel host. They forget that at the dnd of the day, they are salespeople and not truly media personalities. The show will go on without you, no matter how popular you are. Sure, you can pull people to other shopping networks, but a host is only part of the reason people are watching. They want quality merchandise and as the failure of a few startup networks over the last decade illustrates, shit products will sink a network. Tim Temple learned that lesson the hard way, and the proof is that there are current diehard viewers of ShopNBC who have no idea who he is.

UPDATE 10/16/2009: Read all of the comments, and then my response to all of it: http://betterskills.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/these-are-clearly-not-my-people/

UPDATE: 10/19/2009 The Return of Tim Temple: http://betterskills.wordpress.com/2009/10/18/the-return-of-tim-temple/

84 Responses to “Jim Skelton out at ShopNBC?”

  1. Ken Ahearn Says:

    You are one Classless ass who does not know what he’s talking about

  2. betterskills Says:

    How is what i wrote classless? An name calling too? I could play that game with you Mr. A-hole, but what’s the point? You’ll see, Mr. Skelton is a dead man walking.

  3. maliasuperstar Says:

    I’m not sure where you’re getting your information from, but I can assure you that Jim Skelton has a HUGE following and if he were to ever leave the shop, there would be A LOT of unhappy customers. And as a matter of fact there are quite a few members on WatchGeeks that I communicate with on a regular basis that will stop watching a football game & switch over to the shop to catch Jim’s show. So I do not believe for a second that any of those calls are staged as I have recognized some of those voices of callers from the WatchGeek community.
    Everybody is entitled to their opinion and this is all it is, your opinion. Doesn’t appear to have any fact based information to support your opinion.

  4. Bigjimzlll Says:

    Sounds like another Malcontent. Your obsession of all things Jim Skelton borders on physchotic. Get some help…really.

  5. Rick Donahue Says:

    I think you are dead wrong. And i think you will be proved wrong.

  6. Jim Skelton Says:

    I was pointed to this blog and would like to assist in setting the record straight if I may.

    Firstly, thank you for your obvious concern about our watch programs at ShopNBC. If we’re being talked about at all, it can;t be a bad thing :)

    Tim Temple is indeed back “home” at ShopNBC and we are all very excited about this, myself included of course. But this is not a move to replace myself, or anyone else on our host team. It is a result of our ever-expanding watch program which now dominates our program schedule, and becomes more demanding almost weekly. Suffice it to say that the schedule is so daunting that neither myself, nor our original “Watch Host” Shawn Wilsie could possibly fill all of the additional hours. So it makes perfect sense to bring in ‘reinforcements’, especially someone with Tim’s obvious experience. Now our shows can continue to grow more easily.

    Just last week I was fortunate enough to have signed a new contract, so any rumors of my departure, are simply that… rumors. I would not be leaving on my own as this is my home, and I love and respect those that I work with. Since our shows have grown tremendously year to year over the last 5 years, (and we have even grown this year during this unfortunate economic downturn) my performance has never been in question. I am blessed to work with an incredible team at our network, and it is the team effort along with the outstanding product and pricing that allows us to keep growing.

    As to WatchGeeks.net competing in any with our website at ShopNBC.com, nothing could be further from the truth actually. WG sells absolutely nothing, and is not a website for profit in any way. WG was built by myself along with my two good friends Bruce and Michael to be a place for watch lovers to congregate and enjoy themselves. It also allows me to directly interact with all of our viewers as well as provide sneak peeks of upcoming products through my photography. If WG impacts ShopNBC in any way, it is in a positive way as you can certainly view my sneak peeks as marketing for our shows.

    As to the comments about loyalty (in reference to our viewers), I do make this comment a lot because as I often say; I am very thankful to all of our viewers because without them, we cannot exist. I came from the online watch community long before I was a host, so I have spent a good amount of time on the consumer end… and I feel it is important to always recognize HOW & WHY these shows are successful. The viewers make it all possible, and none of us, certainly myself, have forgotten this important fact.

    So again I thank you for your concern & commentary, and I hope I have answered your questions so that some of these rumors can be put to bed.

  7. bob Says:

    I dod not see your name, so please publish who you are. I think you are a poser and a troll, one who isn’t a watch collector and one who just wants to stir thinks up by spreading factless falsehoods. Were is your proof? The fact that Shopnbc finally hires another watch host instead of the bumbling non-watch hosts they have doing the shows, other than Jim Skelton?? What are you watching anyway?? If you would not turn the channel from a football game to catch a watch show, then you are not a collector, just a poser. It’s takes a big man to make up crap about people, maybe you should just call yourself Rush. You have no idea what you are talking about and cannot support any of your claims. As the English would, take you opinion and piss off!!!

  8. bandanapeg Says:

    Well friend, you did a very nice job of carving up Mr. Skelton. I like many other members, would love to know where and from whom you gathered your information. Did it ever occur to you, that perhaps Jim was not feeling well, or was called in at the last moment, and did not have time to dress for the presentations. I think your critique was unfounded. I like Jim, I enjoy his presentations and have gained a lot of knowledge.
    If he leaves, it will be SNBC’s loss.I would suggest you stick to facts, and not “yellow” journelism.

  9. The Rev. Says:

    I think you are a lovestruck fanboy who realizes he has no chance of love with Jim, since he is happily married. You realize this fact as you stare at his “BIG PACKAGE” drooling. Knowing you will never have it you now lash out in hate. There is someone out there for you. I promise.

  10. ricard75 Says:

    Hey Betterskills,I think one of your worse skills is journalism as you are making biased remarks about which you know nothing. Jim skelton got me into watch collecting and for that I am thankful, Jim is a knowledgeable host who displays the product in such a manner in which I (the consumer)can make an informed decision on purchasing or not. I am confident that Shop NBC knows this as well he is the best home shopping host I know of also he indeed cares about his viewers so much he probably works an additional 50 hours a week answering questions and helping anyone who needs it. I think in the future you should get the facts before you start a blog about someone I also think you should seek a psychologist for looking at someones “package” and claiming you couldn’t help it.You sir need help…seriously.

  11. Scott Says:

    Apparently you must be some sort of “armchair” Shopping Network CEO.

    I guess the good thing for you is that there are plenty of other shopping channels, as well as, other hosts on ShopNBC. Wait, I forgot fashion critic too.

    As you know, too much of a good thing can be bad for you. It seems like maybe you should take a break from ShopNBC or at least jim’s shows for a while. Now I understand how empowering the keyboard must be for you. But have you ever heard of live and let live???

    Just curious, because you come across as someone that is just wishing bad things on someone, and during this trying time for our nation, as well as the rest of the world, with incredible unemployment, and the constant failings of our finances ir would be sad to wish misfortune on another. Instead of coming across as a “keyboard commando” maybe you could use this medium for good. Just a suggestion, do with it what you will!

    Best regards!

  12. Creepy La Beef Says:

    Who the hell is Jim Skelton?!! Who the hell still watches shop-at-home TV?!! The whole SAH business has been built on selling re-furbished, discontinued,overpriced crap! Many a shut-in Grandmother has been screwed out of her social security check by these deceptive networks, shame on them!

    Years ago some loudmouthed jag-off was hustling baseball “collectibles” on one of these shows, I think his name was Steve Reynolds! A couple of my buddies tried to get the phone operator to put them on the air. Their plan was to give a phony credit card number for two autographed Mickey Mantle/ Joe DiMaggio baseballs. They wanted to get on air and talk up the dipshit host convince him to sign his name right next to Joe D and The Mick! After the balls were signed on the air they were gonna laugh and hang up! Of course they never got on the air because all the callers were scripted, but think how funny it would have been if it all worked out!

    You rule Betterskills!! Keep up the good work!

  13. Trouble Ariza Says:

    I saw the show you wrote about and must say that I only saw a watch box that Jim was selling. The only thing that you saw was Jim’s package that must say something about you. Did you ever make an advance toward him and he shot you down? because he doesn’t swing that way and now all you can do is write negative things. get a life fruitcake.

  14. Trainer Dave Says:

    Bigjimzlll, It must be nice to hide behind a computer and talk trash about people and to other who post on here! What’s funny is that I know something about you that not to many others know! It all starts with your manhood. You are a little weak man that has a problem with a Woman and not with a men! You get sexually aroused by a man and not a woman. You find yourself wanting a woman but always waking up next to a man. Every time you look at your penis you just get more depressed on the extremely small size and lack of function of it. When you are intimate with a man you feel free to be who you really are deep down in side ! ! ! You are just a weak little man who talks way to much trash. So before you respond to my comment in a rude way just think about it first. “This is all True” Every time you are with a woman you truly wish you were with a man… It’s ok to be GAY! ! This has nothing to do with your post about Jim S…. This is just something I know about you and thought I would comment on it…

  15. Scott Says:

    I’m glad you saw the humor in my post and it didn’t get wasted.

    As far as your statement about “Fanboys”, you may want to reconsider as Jim is a personal friend of mine, not merely some TV personality that I would blindly defend.

    Out of curiosity, what is the intended purpose of this whole thing anyway? You only addressed one of my comments. Do you wish to see Jim lose his job? Are you unhappy with a purchase of an item from ShopNBC, did you have a bad experience on the forum that Jim is co-owner of? It seems like there is some embedded venom (no, not an Invicta model reference) in your observations.

    I guess it just strikes me as odd that someone would take the time to write this stuff about as you referred to him as: “A glorified Billy Mays”. As far as functioning in REAL LIFE, I know I personally do real well. What strikes me even odder is why I felt compelled to acknowledge this, but like I said before, I would do the same for any of my FRIENDS!

  16. Eyal Lalo Says:

    You are all suckling at the teet of Skelton…Suckle it, suckle it….ahh the Koolaid of life for the fuzzy bunnies

  17. Dave Blast Says:

    Wow, all this trouble over a half-ass watch show on ShopNBC and the best thing that anyone of you could come up with as a rebuttal are “fag jokes.”

    If you guys took a few minutes off from rubbing your dicks through your watch bands you might realize how lame your lives have become. Then again most of you are probably the same guys buying comic books and baseball cards for exorbitant amounts of money while the six year old that they were actually designed for cries in the corner. Do you idiots realize that all you have accomplished is pushing this blog closer to number one in the ratings… Suckers!

    betterskills this shit was hilarious keep up the good work.

    Jim Skelton I can’t believe you took the time to get involved shouldn’t you be banging ShopNBC interns or something.

  18. Marcus Says:

    I find this whole thing very interesting. The OP made a comment about a show he personally watched. As for where he obtained his information about Mr Skelton being let go is unknown, but no where in his post did he say anything derogatory regarding the host other than he wasn’t dressed to the nines per his usual. He didn’t bash Mr Skelton anywhere in his blog. Even Mr Skelton was courteous to the OP. But then Mr Skelton’s loyal fans visciously attack the OP!! Why is that? I have visited Watchgeeks and never joined because this seems to be the norm there. If anything Mr Skelton does is questioned or someone has a complaint about a ShopNBC watch brand…they are unmercifully belittled by the members there. Now I’m sure that you will all decide to verbally abuse me as I have not jumped on the band wagon to verbally assault the OP. Will you prove me wrong? I doubt it.

  19. betterskills Says:

    TVDiner. First off – I’ve never heard of or visited your forum, so what would I give you credit for – watching the same show I did and making all of the same observations? You should be giving me props then.

    Something that all of you nutballs are ignoring is the first sentence of the post, “leads me to believe”. I never eluded to anything as fact; it’s easy to admit that it’s all conjecture, and regardless of Mr. Skelton’s response. Sure, he signed a contract, but you do realize that he can be paid to not be on the air? Right? It’s a ploy often used to lock up talent that may be competition and keep ‘talent’ locked up. With all of the wacked out responses, WG shows that Mr. Skelton is indeed a serious threat if let go. You ‘geeks’ should be this passionate about what’s going on in DC – just my opinion.

    If some of the private messages I have recieved are true, than Mr. Skelton is a short timer and a few of my points were dead on.

    The blog was not reporting, it’s an anonymous spot out in the wilderness where I publicly formulated a premises.

    I’ll keep repeating it until it sinks in – you people found me.

  20. Marcus Says:

    And to Bob who states,”If you would not turn the channel from a football game to catch a watch show, then you are not a collector, just a poser.” With all do respect watch collecting started long before Mr Skelton and ShopNBC were around. I am not knocking the Shop but there is a great many watch companies out there…not just the ones on the Shop. And many true watch collectors do not find the brands sold there to be “collectable”. Have you ever visited any other watch forums? Try it some time. There really are a great many choices out there and many of them have the same movements or better for less money. And not only that, they are brands you can buy at an AD.

  21. betterskills Says:

    Right on Trainer Dave – BigJizimill must also be a prick on the WatchGeeks forum as well, you must have some inside information on him. Good looking out and speaking up instead of being a follower of a salesman!

  22. tomgautoone Says:

    Dude,

    Why are you checking out Jim’s “package”, bro?
    And you seem enthralled by his ink.

    Sounds like you have other issues to deal with.

  23. betterskills Says:

    Yet another fucking moron who gets turned on by talk of cock. Let me explain it to you one more time. ShopNBC obviously has an anti tattoo policy, which is why your Christ, Savior and wet dream, Jim Skelton, doesn’t wear short sleeves and quickly covers them up if they show up in the monitor. He made a point to stick it in SNBC’s face on Sunday night. As for his package – Helen Keller could have saw it. I know a bit about tv production, and to me, it seemed that he was positioning while looking in a monitor.

    Jesus Christ, if my fans were this stupid, I’d go into hiding. I’d be embarrased that I appeal to such a brain dead crowd…

  24. Watchgeek Cock-knocker Says:

    I love that all of my faggy boyfriends from WG are posting here!!! YEAHHH….Maybe we can have a watch Party later where we all stick Pro Divers in our asses and run around the backyard…

  25. geek-killer Says:

    fanboyz and kool Aid drinkers one and all. Their god walks on water even though so much of his hype is mis-leading.

    Never again will you see these prices!

    I love this watch!

    I have this exact watch! ( his collection must number in the thousands by now )

    THIS WILL SELL OUT! not!

    Made in the best chinese factories with under-paid labor in the world

    Hell, he even has some freak posting a play by play of his shows.

    Get a freakin life geekers.

  26. Jaime Skeleton Says:

    Well said beterskills….Most of the responses here are from new WGs that have not open their eyes yet..The old members already open their eyes and left on a hurry to a new forum….Watchfreeks is another place for Jim Skelton worship and ball kissing…Cmon people OPEN YOUR EYES

  27. Scott Says:

    Sounds like you all need to get a life.

    Skelton is a good host who knows his shit. Period. If he leaves, although he states he just signed a new contract, then he leaves. Good luck in whatever he decides to do.

    I’m not sure why some people on this blog seem to have ill feelings toward a man that they have never met. Get an fing life.

  28. Anonymous Says:

    What a bunch of douche bags

  29. Creepy La Beef Says:

    If Skelton “knew his shit” why would he be hustling people to buy mass-produced, machine made shitty watches rather than individually made, hand-crafted timepieces? I wonder what experience he actually has in fine jewelry?

    Fuck that guy! he’s a snake oil salesman!

    He’s such a good hustler it looks like he hustled the cock-sock right out of David Lee Roth’s pants!

  30. Marcus Says:

    Scott, you ask why some people have ill feelings toward someone they have never met. What I can’t understand is how can people be willing to verbally attack and accuse others….for someone they have never met. Most of the fan base act as if Mr Skelton is a personal friend of theirs. All they know of him is what they see on TV. Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.

  31. Jaime Skeleton Says:

    I don’t need to know JS in person to see that he is a scamer and an idiot!..Posting pictures of Maria Shriver on WGs and telling to his co-horts that she is ugly is a coward and vile thing to do.
    You (SCOTT) participated on the JS Skelton stupidity and less than honorable fun!
    You and him are idiots an little men!
    I still have copies of the posts after you erase them…Imbeciles!

  32. geek-killer Says:

    Jaime Skelton, you should post those things so everyone can see them. Might take the wind of the sails of geeks. The loyal kool aid drinkers rush to defend the master of deception.

    you geeks need to get a life far away from the internet. It is frying your brains. Do you really think skelton or any grifter selling cheap watches on a tv station is your friend?

    Do some google searches and look up skelton and what he has done to friends of his in the past. Geez dudes, move on. Buying 100 invicta watches does not make you a collector. It makes you really gullible.

  33. geek-killer Says:

    I wonder why Skelton bothered to pop up here to begin with and why he deleted the thread with this site from his forum?

    Is he afraid of something or does he have something to hide? If you read some of these responses they are truly amazing in venomous content. Are these people who wrote some of this stuff nuts or just kool aid drinkers with no life and in search of a leader.

    Hitler would have a field day with some of these followers of St. Skelton

  34. Koi Baiter Says:

    Hey Geek-killer, the fucking threads not deleted. Putz. Don’t you have to be in court soon? Fucking head case.

  35. betterskills Says:

    I never thought much about the whole Skelton Army; I mean, I saw it from time to time on the various messageboards and chalked it up to superfans that were expecting free watches for their loyalty – fucking idiots. The types of overweight, cigar smoking self-styled sophistics that probably think Guy Fieri and chunky mens jewelry are cool. But Jesus – it’s like Jim Skelton Über Alles! You fanboys are complete fucking idiots! ‘Koi Bater’ is on here all of the time with several posts, all from the same IP. Are you stroking off to this bullshit?

    I’m starting to think that Jim Bob Skelton is sanctioning this behavior…

    Watch Geeks… You should call yourselves Skelton’s Cumdumpsters.

  36. Jill Sommerstein Says:

    C’mon boys. Play nice.

  37. geek-killer Says:

    to Koi Baiter whoever you are,
    WTF are you ranting about? Why would you go to court because of this blog? Headcases is right about these guys.

  38. Jaime Skeleton Says:

    betterskills…yuo are not far from the truth…WGs is like a JS cult…They do wathever JS tell them to do…Even when a Invicta watch have terrible flaus, JS tell them that the watch with the flaus is good like a collectors item due to the flaus…AND THEY BELIEVE HIM!
    Poor souls…What will be next!

  39. betterskills Says:

    He’s another Internet tuff guy. Believe it or not, I have ppl sending me all kinds of stuff and it’s been suggest that he’s SeanCM who is apparently a moderator over at WG. These ‘Watch Geeks’ are a funny bunch – it’s like L. Ron Hubbard creampied Amway and accidentally got it pregnant. Ultimatly the love child was given to Jim Jones to raise in a South American Wal Mart. It grew up to be one of the Watch Geek SS. If I were JS, I’d bounce these ass clowns; what a poor reflection on him. They can’t even tell the difference between conjecture and a slam, and really – who the fuck cares: YOU MORONS DON’T KNOW HIM!

  40. Jaime Skeleton Says:

    Jill…You are a class act lady…Keep it that way
    It bothers a lot of people when Jim S make sexual comments on you prescence..He acts whorst than a 15 years old kid..He has no respect for the host (YOU) and the audience (US)
    He thinks is a comedian, and maybe he is , but a very bad one!

  41. FuzzyWabbit Says:

    Your thoughts are pretty much spot on. I also believe Tim will be relieving Jim of his duties before years end. Shop is tired of his bullshit website, the litigation brought against him, and the constant childish sexual innuendo that he performs on air. Classic case of someone who got to comfortable in their position and someone better waiting in the wings.

  42. Hunter Killer Says:

    Really all of you are crazy! If you don’t like Jim then move on to another forum or whatever. If you like watch collecting and like watching Jim on tv and being members on his forum good for you! I have been a watch collector for years and don’t buy alot of Shopnbc watches but still like watching the shows. Jim knows watches. If you don’t like Invicta or any other brands, don’t buy them. If Tim Temple coming to Shopnbc changes Jim’s future that will be up to Jim and Shopnbc. Hey 100 years from now none of this will really matter anyway. I think you should just enjoy what you like and let others do the same. Hell if we were all the same it would be really boring. Good luck to you all in your own life and what you want out of it.

  43. JJ Says:

    To betterskills, you definitely need betterskills! Besides being a butt pirate nut licker…taking and looking at the mans package! What a LOWLIFE!!!

  44. FuzzyWabbit Says:

    I watched a show last night or the night before that I jut happened to catch a bit of while retiring for the night. It was a Sturling show with Larry on. Larry kept responding or talking about “a website”, I guess it’s true what I read that they are not allowed to say WatchGeeks on the Air anymore. I remember seeing a copy of a thread from WG’s that Jim said it was BS and he would say WG’s referrals at least 10 times on the air that particular night. It never happened nor has since. I’m thinking the Ego is truly getting smashed to smithereens as of late and Tim is just the ku de gra.

  45. betterskills Says:

    Why don’t you read the latest blog? Better yet, start at Dec and read forward. Really, I don’t give two shits about Jim Sellton and Invicta’s (altho I would like to see Jill from head to toe).

    Do you realize how gay it is to turn my blog into Invicta Vietnam?

    “I don’t want to save the world, I’m not looking for a New England…”

  46. Creepy La Beef Says:

    I guess JJ has a problem with seeing a man’s package and not being able to put it in his mouth! TV can be such a hell for some!

  47. FuzzyWabbit Says:

    Creepy La Beef Says:

    October 16, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    I guess JJ has a problem with seeing a man’s package and not being able to put it in his mouth! TV can be such a hell for some!

    Thanks for the value add there. Please refrain from posting any further unless you actually have a serious comment. thanks

  48. betterskills Says:

    Uh, Fuzzy Wabbit – you do realize this is my blog, right? I can appriciate your disdane for Jim’s Juggalo Army; having experienced their comment riot on my blog.

    Creepy LaBeef, preach on!

  49. FuzzyWabbit Says:

    Actually I really couldn’t tell who the Hell’s Blog this was. I was trying to keep it to topic but if you’d rather digress into childish insults, it’s your Blog have at it.

  50. tattoo chef Says:

    hey, jamie skelton………guess your another retard……..

    i helped put watchfreeks up……..and while i have no real disdain for jim skelton……cause unlike you people i could really care less about what goes on in hes personal and professional life, i am by far one of the last people that is a blind follower of anything….why dont you go take a look at watchfreeks and see what the site is really all about , you jackass……

    i wasnt going to respond,and then when i decided to , i was going to be all nice and cool and collected, but you are all a bunch of jackasses…….
    and you ask why would jim skelton comment on this blog…….well its fucking about him, you morons, why shouldnt he responsd.

    this entire thing, where people are so obsessed with one man, really needs to stop.

    no offense to jim, but if he leaves shop, stays, loves invicta, hates invicta, gets divorced….i dont really care….i would care as much about it as i would for any person i dont really know….i have had email interaction and interaction on the forum with him…….that doesnt mean i know him……

    so why does everyone here attack or defend a guy they dont even know and dont know what they are talking about…….

    writing a blog with your own opinions is one thing, but next time, maybe you should have some facts before you start rambling away…

    oh and heres and idea, maybe you should get a fucking life and get out once in awhile into the real world, and not worry so much about a watch tv salesman……….

  51. betterskills Says:

    I was with you, and then you lost me. I love the type of person who talks about writing a blog as a waste of time and how I need to get a life – but you commented on it, and you end up fighting about it: so what’s that make you.

    You were so right on, but then you got pissed because you realized that you are a follower and you don’t want to be lumped in with the mindless ones. I pulled your card Tattoo Chef, don’t hate, re-evaluate.

    Trying reading sine of my other blogs; oh that’s right, I’m not on tv so email interaction with me would be stupid. Because you’re a cool guy. You’re a tattooed chef.

  52. Creepy La Beef Says:

    I wonder if working together Tattoo Chef made a quiche for Jim and then gave each other Henna tattoos on their asses?

  53. tattoo chef Says:

    im a folllower? a follower of what. ….the fact that i like watches…..

    my commenting on this blog is because im sick of seeing this shit……..

    i post on forums about watches, because its something i enjoy……..

    i could care less who is on tv…….and i also dont feel the need to put stuff like this out in the open on a blog about some guy that i have some issues with…..

    i dont understand………..why the need to call out jim skelton with a blog like this…..

    if you have an issue, why dont you ask him about it…..and if you dont believe him…….well thats fine, but still dont see the need to post a blog dedicated to jim skelton…

    your like tmz and the all the paparazzi , why does anyone care about what one individual on tv does?

    we all seem to care too much about the fanatsy world and not enough about the real world. ..

    and i got news for ya……..the only reason i resonded to this blog was because of the guy who said watchfreeks was just another jim skelton blind followers site……..

    i dont follow anybody. im not defending jim………he can do that himself, hes a big boy……i just dont understand the need to call him aout.

    i helped start watchfreeks as another option to have something different than watchgeeks………not to be the same….

    i dont like when people talk about something, that they obviously have no clue about…..

    this will be my last comment here, and hey , its a free world , you are free to do and write whatever you want…….so comment back as much as you want, im done with this……

    if you want to speak to me again…….you know where to find me………

  54. Jaime Skeleton Says:

    tattoo chef….You don’thave to explain yourself …You can continue your minute to minute Jim Skelton ass kissing and ball licking all the time you want! This is not about you
    Prick!

  55. Marcus Says:

    I’m not seeing where this started out as a personal attack on Mr Skelton. I did see where an opinion was being stated. After the opinion was stated, the OP was bombarded with attacks from Mr Skelton’s fans? Even Mr Skelton DID NOT attack the OP. My question is, does he condone the actions of the members of his forum. As I previously stated, I refrained from joining that particular forum for those reasons alone. Over and over people are attacked by the membership because they have a complaint about certain watch brands or the owners of the forum. So really all, who are the pot stirrers here?

  56. betterskills Says:

    Why the need to start your own messageboard? And calling it Watch Freaks? It’s like the TV show, “Freaks and Geeks” but it’s not a comedy, it’s a train wreck. You clowns are like the Real Housewives of Atlanta – what’s next, a clothing line?

    Where are you a chef? At the Cheesecake Factory? You’ll be back. while more articulate than the vast majority of Jim’s Juggalos you’re consumed with this wack bullshit.

    As for asking Jim Skelton anything, why? I’m still aghast that none of you fruitcakes noticed the question mark after the title. And how many times have I said CONJECTURE? Do you miscrantes know what that word means? Should I add definitions to some of the words in the blog?

    The bigger question for me is – in a few months time, when Jim is no longer on the air, and he trys to spin some bullshit about being out of the country on some sort of assignment; what then? He’s under contract, but part of that contract could very well be to lock him up for a year or two. It might also include him saying that it’s his choice to leave for some ‘better’ opportunity. And all of you zombies will say – “Duh, okay – we’ll watch Tim then, duh… ”

    All of you dildos can feel free to come back and ask my opinion then.

  57. FuzzyWabbit Says:

    Pot Stirrers, Geeks, Sheeple, Malcontents, Hucksters, Oh MY!

  58. JJ Says:

    Creepy Punk, you sure got a big mouth on the internet, thats from sucking big cocks, you FAG!

  59. FuzzyWabbit Says:

    lol, Creepy is yet another keyboard warrior on the vast land of the information highway.

  60. Creepy La Beef Says:

    Haha! That’s funny JJ. I can tell by your filthy mouth that BOTH your Dad’s REARED you well! As for your comment, if I wanted any lip from you I would’ve reached down your pants and got it myself!

  61. Michael Says:

    Although, Some Current Diehard Viewers Of Shop NBC May Not Know Who Tim Temple Is, ‘Long Time Viewers’ Who Go Way Back To The ‘Value-Vision Days’ Know Exactly Who Tim Temple Is…

  62. betterskills Says:

    Interesting program note for tonight: FiOS use to list Watch Time as ‘Watch Time with Jim Skelton’. Tonight, it lists it as just ‘Watch Time’.

  63. m.davis Says:

    The sad part about all of this is that the consumer is being subjected to the sophomoric antics of this “gentleman”. One would hope that the brass at Shop NBC will eventually see the light and convince Mr. Skelton to change his smarmy and immature ways. I realize that he is a salesman and that his job is to appeal to the company’s customers, but there are respectable, professional as well as effective ways of doing this. An example of this is Tim returning to the air, he is well informed and very professional in his presentations — IMO a breath of fresh air!

    Hopefully things will change, but I have my doubts.

    In response to the heated comments in response to this blog, move on people. The OP’s comments were speculative and apparently proven wrong.

  64. betterskills Says:

    I have not been proven wrong yet – I gave Mr. Skelton till the end of the year in the initial post. Based on where a lot of traffic was coming from, I really do think I nailed what’s going on behind the scenes. ShopNBC management may stretch hid on air appearances further out to minimize the impact of the ‘geeks’ as it is true that Mr. Skelton ha a legion of followers who consider watch collecting buying every dial version of a particular model.

    I also appologised to Tim Temple in advance for having to join watch geeks – which he seems to have done to quiet my assertions.

    I do believe time will prove me right.

  65. m.davis Says:

    Point taken, I guess we will have to wait and see if/when Mr. Skelton gets “the boot”.

    Again, good blog. Unlike the others, I have acutally read other submissions!

  66. FuzzyWabbit Says:

    I forgot about this conversation until I was it pop up in my history. Looks like the topic is pretty much beaten to death. What more could be said?

  67. darksider Says:

    Tim Temple has 11 hours of programing, Jim Skelton 12 hours. TT has a lot of Invicta time this week.

    Jim Skelton now claims he asked for the Die-Cast auto shows because he is a car lover. I wonder how long those hours doing anything on TV will last given his recent on air comments such as those made during the Renato show. They included comments about the Renato Beauty making a woman fertile, having blue lizard underwear similar to the watch band on a Watch being shown on TV. Comments about giving a watch to your wife and girlfriend both to which Mr. Mink declined to comment on.

    One also wonders how long it will be before the past catches up to Mr.Skelton and his Corona Gorda Days in Cigar forums.

    On the other hand, Mr Temple and Mr. Wiltsie bring composure, class and interesting and informative presentations to the audiences.

    Reading this bolog was a learning experience to say the least. Mr. Tattoo is a follower of Mr. Skelton as were many of the posters. It appears that the parents of many them were failures since they have stooped to name calling and hate mongering.

  68. In Cognito Says:

    Wow, that’s rich. So you know so much that Jim will be canned by January (but luckily you gave yourself an out by saying they will stretch it out, now you can’t be wrong for at least 6 months), and your influence is so strong that because of your little blog, Tim Temple was forced to join Watch Geeks.

    Wow.

  69. betterskills Says:

    In Cognito – you should come clean: I know you’re in Eden Prairie, so the influence of this blog is reaching ShopNBCs home base. So yeah – I think I’m right on. I’m the fly in the ointment because I figured out what was going on and seemingly threw a wrench into the smooth transition from Temple to Skelton.

    But I should ignore the fact that Skelton commented here, right? And I should ignore how many hits came from both Lotus Notes and MS Exchange emails, right? Not to mention Skelton making vailed references to the blog that any of his diehard Juggalo fans who read and scrutinized the posts also surely were able to pick up on.

    Yeah, I think I hit the nail on the head. And you know I have too, short timer.

  70. betterskills Says:

    Read the latest blog, “Jim Skelton Has Comcast!”

  71. Jaime Skeleton Says:

    Incognito is another follower like tatto chef that denied been one…you just have to read watch forums where tatoo chef “deffends” Jim Skelton, Shop nbc and invicta, At his own forum Tatoo chef) claims to be the Judge the jury the executioner and the mayor! jajajajajajaja
    What is expected from a gay “chef” with proffesional wrestlers tatooed all over his body, All Jim skelton admirers are like that one way or another. period.

  72. betterskills Says:

    In Cognito is Jim Skelton. Go to betterskills.wordpress.com and read the blog, “Jim Skelton Has Comcast!”

    As for Tattooed Chef, someone emailed a picture of him to me and he has, what appear to be, tribal tattoos. If you’re not a Maori and were not inspired to get a tribal piece back in the late 80’s by ReSearch’s Modern Primatives, then you’re clearly in the tribe of douche bags.

  73. Agree with the OP Says:

    betterskills,

    I think you hit the nail on the head my friend. It’s good to see that you have seen through all the smoke and mirrors and are calling people on it. This is the best and most informative blog I have seen yet about WG’s, JS, and ShopNBC. People do your research on the Web you will find out that all the things being mentioned here hold a lot of validity.

  74. darksider Says:

    ” In Cognito aka Jim Skelton Says:

    November 1, 2009 at 4:53 pm
    Wow, that’s rich. So you know so much that Jim will be canned by January (but luckily you gave yourself an out by saying they will stretch it out, now you can’t be wrong for at least 6 months), and your influence is so strong that because of your little blog, Tim Temple was forced to join Watch Geeks.

    Wow.”

    Why not tell us all about your expertise on Imperious watches not being part of Invicta. You can also confirm that Invicta and Seiko worked together on a new movement just for Invicta. Could you explain how “flame fusion” is superior to a Sapphire cyrstal again?

    Did you or did you not coin the term ” fuzzy bunnies” as your followers are referred to?

  75. Jaime Skeleton Says:

    Excellent Darksider….we know for a fact that JS is a big liar, that is the way he earns his money, the sad part is that his followers believe everything he says.
    Cats and dogs open their eyes whitin 14 days of birth…Stupids , NEVER!

  76. Agree with the OP Says:

    Darksider AKA Michael or otherwise known as Meijin,

    Do you really think people don’t know it’s you? Your hot headed temper gives you away everytime dip shit. You and JS have to hide behind alias’s because you two are like little school girls. We are all excited for the day that JS gets canned from ShopNBC and we also look forward to you getting canned by Invicta. You two are crooks with dirty pasts. It’s fun watching you two drive both ShopNBC and Invicta into the ground. Your little watch forum is just a way for you two to appear to give a shit about people when all you really care about is them opening up their wallets. You guys really need to do the world a favor and slit your wrists to preserve oxygen for real human beings.

  77. betterskills Says:

    So are you suggesting that Darksider is a co-owner of watchgeeks as well as the creepy invicta presentaion guy? Why would he constantly haunt these blogs spouting anti-Skelton / Invicta stuff? For a goof? For something to laugh about with Skelton? That doesn’t make sense. But then again, who knew that there were people who elevated a fucking watch salesman.

    Do tell…

  78. Agree with the OP Says:

    I did not see that Darksider was quoting somebody else so that is my mistake. I know that Michael or Meijin is exactly what everybody says he is, a piece of garbage. He is a very creepy thing. I’m amazed that people don’t see right through this guy and all his bull shit. These “Owners” of Watch Geeks run their forum much like Hitler ran Germany during WW II. They have all these naive people who believe every word they say and will follow them off of a cliff. They have the members thinking that these guys are their friends when in actuality they will be the first people to stick you in the back if you question them on anything that they have said or done. My apologies to Darksider because I think he feels the same way about JS, Michael, WG’s, and Invicta as I do. People really need to learn the truths about these guys and what their motives are. Here is a good link to get you started. http://watchedgeeks.forumotion.net/forum.htm

  79. betterskills Says:

    I find him creepy to look at on TV.

  80. Agree with the OP Says:

    He looks constipated and he can’t ever seem to find the right camera to look into. It’s actually kind of amusing to watch him. He looks like a dog chasing it’s tail in circles.

  81. Agree with the OP Says:

    Over the weekend Michael Davis left his mic on as he was leaving the set of ShopNBC after a watch show. Well he was commenting on another watch and dropped the F-Bomb on live television. It was hilarious. Then you have Jim Skelton making his way around to all the watch forums “Clarifying” what happened. This was extremely funny. These two idiots amaze me. I’m looking forward to the day that one can watch ShopNBC and not have to see these two morons.

  82. betterskills Says:

    I have suspected that the production staff was no fan of Skelton as he talks down to them on a regular basis; but a ‘hot’ mic when the personality isn’t on the air is usually something done out of spite. One has to wonder if he (Michael) has made enemies in the control room.

  83. Agree with the OP Says:

    I’m sure both Michael and Jim have plenty of enemies at ShopNBC. It would be fun to know if somebody did this to Michael intentionally. Jim’s going around telling everybody that it wasn’t Michaels fault and is blaming the production staff. Typical for these two ding dongs to rationalize and make excuses for each other. I think somebody put a gun to Michaels head and told him to drop the F-bomb. He is a classless person. Jim is in an even tie for this title as well.

  84. betterskills Says:

    The prod staff shouldn’t have the mic on once someone leaves the set, but Michael knows that you assume that mic is hot until it’s removed.


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