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		<title>The Jailbird and the Dirty Bird</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[INVICTA I mean Imperious is Headed back to ShopNBC on February 14th with an &#8220;upgraded&#8221; version of the X-Wing and Man-O-War. The Gearhead and Jailbait Jailbreak are nowhere in sight. While there was much speculation that Ustream host Jim Skelton was the man behind Imperious, you have to wonder if those two &#8216;game changing&#8217; and [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=1072&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><del>INVICTA</del> I mean Imperious is Headed back to ShopNBC on February 14th with an &#8220;upgraded&#8221; version of the X-Wing and Man-O-War. The Gearhead and <del>Jailbait</del> Jailbreak are nowhere in sight. While there was much speculation that Ustream host Jim Skelton was the man behind Imperious, you have to wonder if those two &#8216;game changing&#8217; and &#8216;class dominating&#8217; designs that are not updated or appearing could be Skelton&#8217;s only contribution to the brand.</p>
<p>If you ask me that X-Wing looks a lot like the redesigned Bolt Zeus which, according to some sources, seems to have tanked.</p>
<p>The show on Valentine&#8217;s Day will also be the premier of a new face for <del>Invicta</del> Imperious, former Atlanta Falcon Jamal &#8220;Dirty Bird&#8221; Anderson. He&#8217;s been hired as the Brand Ambassador which is odd that he&#8217;s presenting. And I thought most BAs were still active in their respective specialties? </p>
<p>Anderson&#8217;s debut on ShopNBC marks the three year anniversary of his arrest for felony cocaine possession and a misdemeanor marijuana charge. It has also been revealed that the Georgia Department of Revenue is claiming he owes $102,797.06 for the 2007 tax year. </p>
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<p>One can only imagine the stories that Anderson and Davis can swap at the company pot luck. The Jailbird and the Dirty Bird&#8230; You just can&#8217;t make this stuff up.</p>
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		<title>Watches worth $10K reported stolen from home</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 03:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonder if the guy is still making value pays on these Invictas? By Austin L. Miller Staff writer Published: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 10:18 a.m. OCALA &#8211; Wrist watches worth approximately $10,000 were reported stolen from an Ocala home Monday. Officers responded to the 1900 block of Southeast Lake Weir Avenue, where the homeowner [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=1063&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if the guy is still making value pays on these Invictas?</p>
<blockquote><p>By Austin L. Miller<br />
Staff writer<br />
Published: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 10:18 a.m.</p>
<p>OCALA &#8211; Wrist watches worth approximately $10,000 were reported stolen from an Ocala home Monday.</p>
<p>Officers responded to the 1900 block of Southeast Lake Weir Avenue, where the homeowner told them he left the residence around 9:45 a.m. and returned two hours later and saw that the back door had been kicked in.</p>
<p>The man told Ocala police officers that 20 wrist watches were missing, the majority of which were of the Invicta brand.</p>
<p>A K-9 police dog and handler searched the area, but did not locate any suspects http://www.ocala.com/article/20120117/ARTICLES/120119719</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[THERE is no possible way I could not share this immediately. I mean, I thought about saving it for later in the week but if it&#8217;s real, and with Invicta you just never know, then it&#8217;s just too goddamn funny to sit on. I received a mail from someone claiming to be an &#8220;insider&#8221; of [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=1060&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THERE is no possible way I could not share this immediately. I mean, I thought about saving it for later in the week but if it&#8217;s real, and with Invicta you just never know, then it&#8217;s just too goddamn funny to sit on. </p>
<p>I received a mail from someone claiming to be an &#8220;insider&#8221; of a sourcing  firm that works with Invicta on their various apparel items. </p>
<p>The belt fuckel below is supposedly a piece for a yet unnamed collection that will also including chain wallets. And chain belts.</p>
<p>For men.</p>
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<p>It measures a whopping 17 centimeters across. No details on the weight, other than &#8220;hefty&#8221;. I attempted to get more answers and pics of more funny ass designs. My request has gone unanswered.</p>
<p>ACCORDING to the source, this thing will possibly see the light of day in the third or fourth quarter of this year. </p>
<p>Merry Christmas minions!</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[EVEN though Jim Skelton has been reduced to &#8220;hosting&#8221; a Ustream show, he still feels the need to lash out at Tim Temple. Posted on Watchgeeks was a thread entitled Presentation Skills Advice for All TV Hosts wherein the poster questions the behavior of TV presenters that fawn all over the product as disingenuous. Moby [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=1055&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVEN though Jim Skelton has been reduced to &#8220;hosting&#8221; a Ustream show, he still feels the need to lash out at Tim Temple. Posted on Watchgeeks was a thread entitled <strong>Presentation Skills Advice for All TV Hosts</strong> wherein the poster questions the behavior of TV presenters that fawn all over the product as disingenuous.</p>
<p>Moby Dickweed surfaces to add his two cents to the discussion. And what he states is revealing on several levels:</p>
<blockquote><p>You can ask Michael.. I kiss no one’s butt, and I’ll be brutally honest about the products that I am asked to sell. If I lose the inter-office battle to air an item (again.. I no longer have to battle about this these days), I have been known to even go as far as to mock the product on the show. Of course that is an EXTREME case (remember the faux chrono?? Remember when they tried to slip one single Stauer into my show???).</p></blockquote>
<p>Skelton seems to be stating that he was trying to exercise more control over what product aired. This was reportedly the same mistake that Temple supposedly made which ultimately led to his dismissal. This would seemingly contradict Skelton&#8217;s initial statements that the breakup was mutual &#8211; something that anyone with a brain in their head knows was not true. But one has to wonder if his behavior on WG and taking of fights to the SNBC airwaves; his alleged misuse of personal information and his other on air antics and statements didn&#8217;t lea to his demise. Maybe it all came down to arguing over product.</p>
<p>His next statement of &#8220;have(ing) been known to even go as far as to mock the product on the show&#8221; probably didn&#8217;t put him in the good graces of management. It also seems to suggest that if he was bold enough to &#8220;mock the product&#8221; that when news of Temple&#8217;s return to SNBC became public that his erratic behavior that I detailed and was attacked for was surely his &#8220;mocking&#8221; of the network brass.</p>
<p>I am also surprised that Michael Davis would allow Skelton to dismiss Stauer considering Invicta shares airtime with the brand. It&#8217;s funny, I don&#8217;t disagree that Stauer is a real stretch, yet Skelton ignoring the fact that he was there to sell seem to be what got him tossed out. Temple gets it and that&#8217;s why he has his job back. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s why Skelton is on Ustream.</p>
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		<title>Suprise, Suprise!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HELLO! After a long hiatus attributed to both a lack of inspiration and the demands of work, I&#8217;ve stumbled on something that just reaffirms my loss of interest in contemporary Horology. I purchased the Swiss Army Convoy Chronograph a few years ago at my local TJ Maxx. I had looked at it and was impressed [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=1044&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HELLO! After a long hiatus attributed to both a lack of inspiration and the demands of work, I&#8217;ve stumbled on something that just reaffirms my loss of interest in contemporary Horology. </p>
<p>I purchased the Swiss Army Convoy Chronograph a few years ago at my local TJ Maxx. I had looked at it and was impressed by the overall heft and feel of the steel as well as the finish. I also liked the lines and overall scale of the piece the case looked very modern. What I wasn&#8217;t impressed with was the &#8216;look&#8217; of screw down pushers that were not actually functional but a design element to replicated the design of the crown. I&#8217;d expect function over style with a brand like Victorinox. I also am not a mineral glass fan, especially on a quartz watch. And while i appreciated that the piece was swiss made the price at $250 was a no go. Not for a quartz. It was one to keep an eye on for the inevitable price drop if it didn&#8217;t move and it lasted long enough to reach my price.</p>
<p>Weeks passed and it made its way to the clearance case and the game began. $250 to $239. With each passing week, $10 to $15 dollars would drop off the price as the stack of orange tags grew thicker.</p>
<p>Weeks went by and all of the other watches in the case were churning while the Convoy remained. Eventually, I asked to see it again and immediately looked at the price. It was now appropriately priced (for me anyways) at $115.99 so I pulled the trigger.</p>
<p>The battery started to go back in September as it was losing about five minutes a day. Into its box it went to have the battery replaced at some point in the near future. </p>
<p>Thursday of last week became the past and the revelation of opening the case was a let down.</p>
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<p>While both the face and exposed case back are labeled &#8220;SWISS MADE&#8221; the inside of the case back reveals the actual origin of the case: </p>
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<p>NOW there has been a lot of exposure of Invicta Watch Company engaging in murky behavior with &#8220;Swiss&#8221; watches originating in China, as well as talk of the Swiss Federation investigating some of Invicta&#8217;s claims of Swiss Made. But when asked for comment, the FH have refused. Maybe because whoever is manufacturing &#8220;Swiss Made&#8221; timepieces for Invicta is also manufacturing them for companies like Victornoix. I know, I know; Swiss Made by the legal definition really only pertains to the movement, finishing and assembly. I expected an all Swiss product from a Swiss based company. Maybe I&#8217;m being unrealistic with that expectation in today&#8217;s modern world of Asian near slave labor wages. But it makes me think there is no investigation. That, more than likely, the Swiss are badmouthing Asian opportunists because they&#8217;re not <em>their</em> opportunists. Maybe shining a light on even one small aspect of this name game, like the one Invicta is playing, would actually expose the entire Swiss watch industry as breaking its own rules to maintain profits on lies.</p>
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		<title>Jim Skelton is Coming Back &#8211; On Ustream</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 11:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AFTER much talk of &#8220;changing the game&#8221; and a big countdown on his Public Figure Facebook page, Jim Skelton made the announcement that Betterskills had speculated on months ago; that he would join Lior&#8217;s fledgling World of Watches TV that is streamed live on Ustream and on the satillite infomercial channel. Jim will be sharing [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=1028&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AFTER much talk of &#8220;changing the game&#8221; and a big countdown on his Public Figure Facebook page, Jim Skelton made the announcement that Betterskills had speculated on months ago; that he would join Lior&#8217;s fledgling World of Watches TV that is streamed live on Ustream and on the satillite infomercial channel. Jim will be sharing Ustream bandwidth with such esteemed internet shows as Two Bored Guys, Chanchaka Charmy and Alison Rosen is Your Best Friend. </p>
<p>This move isn&#8217;t much different than the Stickam Couch Tour that I suggested he take.</p>
<p>WoW &#8211; how far the &#8220;mighty&#8221; have fallen. It will be interesting to see if Skelton continues his behavior that seemed to put him into a bad light with ShopNBC brass and ultimately lead to his dismissal at the number three net. Will he take on forum owners and this blog as he has done in the past? Will he troll forums? </p>
<p>Or has he learned his lesson?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ValueVision Media quietly reported their 2nd Quarter results a little over a week ago an it seems that the apparent firing of Jim Skelton did not impact watch sales as ShopNBC brass noted that they improved. &#8220;The Watch category benefitted from a more diverse product mix and achieved improved productivity per minute with attractive margins, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=1023&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ValueVision Media quietly reported their 2nd Quarter results a little over a week ago an it seems that the apparent firing of Jim Skelton did not impact watch sales as ShopNBC brass noted that they improved.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Watch category benefitted from a more diverse product mix and achieved improved productivity per minute with attractive margins, as part of a strategically planned reduction in air-time.&#8221;</p>
<p>FANS of Skelton may point out that since he left, a lot of watches have been offered on 6 Value Pays. I&#8217;d agree that this helps sales but do not think the move is to entice Skelton&#8217;s fan base or as a response to a purchasing drop off by those most ardent of fans, something he suggested on his Facebook page. Rather, it is a response to the continued malaise that is the Not So Great Depression. </p>
<p>Even if you&#8217;re not a fan of the mostly Chinese made watches featured on ShopNBC, the network have made a point of expanding their offerings and most of these are within the 38 mm to 47 mm size range as opposed to the caricatures that have marked Invicta designs over the past few years. These new brands are also selling out while Invicta doesn&#8217;t seem to anymore. So it&#8217;s possible that the core consumer has changed.</p>
<p>With the reported return of Daniel Mink and Renato, it will be interesting to count the sell outs and compare them to the same, tired Invicta rehashed designs. I&#8217;d love to be a fly on the wall in Shop&#8217;s green room when he shares it with Invicta&#8217;s Technical Brand Manager and convicted felon, Michael &#8220;fuckin&#8221; Davis. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ll remember he used Watchgeeks.net to famously call into question the shady sales exercise of the Renato Tourbillon, suggesting that people cancel their orders, which  conveniently coincided with Invicta Watch Company&#8217;s hinting around at their coming Chinese Tourby offering.</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but Invicta&#8217;s continuing slide in quality of both workmanship and materials, coupled with tired and boring designs is reminiscent of Detroit in the late 70&#8242;s. Can the brand continue to be the Shop&#8217;s cash cow or will one of these new brands claim the crown?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[SOME people have turned over stones regarding Invicta Watch Company claims; Koi of watchlords has rolled over a boulder. It turns out Invicta&#8217;s Technical Brand Manager, one of three faces of the brand on ShopNBC, is also a graduate of con college! Mr. Davis was convicted of aggravated robbery in Montgomery County, Ohio in June [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=1011&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOME people have turned over stones regarding Invicta Watch Company claims; Koi of watchlords has rolled over a boulder.</p>
<p>It turns out Invicta&#8217;s Technical Brand Manager, one of three faces of the brand on ShopNBC, is also a graduate of con college! Mr. Davis was convicted of aggravated robbery in Montgomery County, Ohio in June of 1984.</p>
<p>Aggravated robbery is defined as &#8220;the taking of anything of value belonging to another from the person of another or that is in the immediate control of another when the offender intentionally inflicts serious bodily injury.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know what you&#8217;re thinking; &#8220;What&#8217;s serious bodily injury?&#8221;</p>
<p>It is defined as &#8220;bodily injury which involves unconsciousness, extreme physical pain or protracted and obvious disfigurement, or protracted loss or impairment of the function of a bodily member, organ, or mental faculty, or a substantial risk of death.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was sentenced from 5 to 25 years. Who knew Davis was living a thug life( like Tupac thug life?! While he may have been a badd ass on the streets, Mr. Davis appears to have been a model prisoner as he served only 53 months and change, completing parole in 1990.</p>
<p>I&#8217;M of the opinion that the man served his time and this was nearly a quarter century ago, and in recent years is only guilty of being a jagoff; Michael &#8220;fuckin&#8221; Davis deserves a second chance.</p>
<p>But its still funny to find stuff like this in light of Mr. Davis preaching about &#8220;hater&#8221; sites and people making things up &#8211; especially from a convicted felon.</p>
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		<title>Watchgeeks: Checkmate or Too Late?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DAYS after Watchgeeks went white, Michael Davis finally addresses the issue: via Facebook. In short, he claims WG was hacked and a lot of damage had been done; that the site could be out of commission for a few weeks. But this seems so much balderdash. All hacker attacks these days are about information &#8211; [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=1001&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DAYS after Watchgeeks went white, Michael Davis finally addresses the issue: via Facebook. In short, he claims WG was hacked and a lot of damage had been done; that the site could be out of commission for a few weeks. But this seems so much balderdash. All hacker attacks these days are about information &#8211; passwords, personal information and financial information. Watchgeeks has none of this. And why would someone trash their servers &#8211; what&#8217;s the point? Server trashing and data destruction are carried out by governments against one another to slow weapons development. I don&#8217;t think anyone wants to slow the asshole development that goes on at Geeks &#8211; what would we laugh at?</p>
<p>NO, I think that this outage was the end result of Michael Davis&#8217; reckless sticky trying to dissuade people from buying their pre-order Tourbillons from Renato. As is now the case with any Invicta misstep or lie, the party affected was quickly notified and claimed on Facebook to have taken some action. I asked Eyal Lalo via Twitter for a comment regarding this latest outage as well as the Renato situation and he has not responded to either of the inquiries.</p>
<p>Those that follow WGs probably remember similar unannounced outages after the DD Debacle, the Swinese revelation and the Manmade Natural Sandstone dials made their way to other forums and this blog and people broke apart and discussed the stories to reveal a very unflattering and dark picture of the Invicta Watch Company. Following the actual membership numbers revealed a decline following these outages. That seems to indicate that the former owners we&#8217;re trying to purge those lurkers who were gathering the evidence and presenting it to the public; as well as archiving it because WGs is notorious for deleting such items.</p>
<p>BUT now with Invicta actually owing the forum and such a long outage, one has to wonder if this is not just a purge of non posters but also a time out. A way to push out those active posters who are critical within the TOS of the site. They can then migrate to Watchlords, Watchfreeks, WUS and make Watchgeeks a place for those easily intimidated by the MODs and Yellow Shirt members. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s check out those numbers when it comes back online; If that&#8217;s still possible when it does.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[WITH today&#8217;s announcement of Renato spinning off their own forum, renatogeeks; and internet TV show, can we expect the world of TV Horology to collapse under it&#8217;s diversified weight? ShopNBC used to be the defacto place to buy brands whose retail presence was secondary to their late night cable appearances on ShopNBC. Fans regularly phish [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=betterskills.wordpress.com&amp;blog=5866647&amp;post=996&amp;subd=betterskills&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WITH today&#8217;s announcement of Renato spinning off their own forum, renatogeeks; and internet TV show, can we expect the world of TV Horology to collapse under it&#8217;s diversified weight?</p>
<p>ShopNBC used to be the defacto place to buy brands whose retail presence was secondary to their late night cable appearances on ShopNBC. Fans regularly phish for new products, gaining bragging rights on the WG town square. Filling the huge, empty hole in their souls with easy Value Pays and products selling for a 10th of the retail value. </p>
<p>Watchgeeks.net was spun up by a green ShopNBC host who used it to aggregate all of those dispirit fans who routinely got into pissing contests on other forums defending the Invicta brand &#8211; this was a fruitopia for those collectors and addicts; both vain and broken. </p>
<p>This model worked well for awhile, like Michael Jackson and Paul McCartney. But then Invicta, who appears to have financed the site for many years, was no longer the king. Invicta quality started to wain and they began replacing the stuff that made them a value and viable brand &#8211; using coated mineral crystals and replacing stainless with polymers. Lior of SWI got into the game around this time. Where once he pushed brands that he actually owned the licensing agreement for, like Triumph and Jacques Lemans, he wanted to compete head to head with Invicta and so introduced Swiss Legend. These were &#8220;Swiss Movement&#8221; watches and Laylo loved to point out that all of his &#8220;Swiss&#8221; watches were the best value &#8211; because they were made in Switzerland. This occurred as better quality Chinese made brands were introduced (Android) and Invicta was beset by one scandal after another; caught lying about materials and having to admit that &#8220;Swiss&#8221; was actual Chinese.</p>
<p>The one commonality with all the TV brands is that they own no factories. They are a brand with designers who outsource it&#8217;s manufacture to the lowest bidder. I&#8217;ve seen TV Watch brand fans laugh off Fossil. But brands like Invicta are not even in Fossils league. The company actually takes a lead in quality and works with the suppliers at the manufacturing level to ensure the highest possible quality standards. Go to your local TJ Maxx and compare the two sometime.</p>
<p>WHEN James &#8220;No Cut Contract&#8221; Skelton replaced Tim Temple, he brought an entirely new demographic to the world of Horology. The Coors Lite; riding motorcycles in shorts and flip flops crowd people who smoked cigars and left the rings on; that drank Chardonnay from a box while wearing shirts with the top 4 buttons undone. These were not watch idiot savants &#8211; they was plain fucking idiots.</p>
<p>I&#8217;VE suspected that WOW.TV was a reaction to the Invicta Swinese scandal. They had been at a competitive disadvantage with Invicta who was claiming to offer supposed Swiss made watches at the same or lower prices. Always subjected to the Invicta crew of Davis, Lalo, Jill and even Skelton implying that consumers were getting Swiss made. Having handled both Swiss Legend and Invicta, the quality is slightly higher in more of the SWI examples. Surely Lior had handled the competition and realized he was surpassing Invicta but always second fiddle.</p>
<p>By the looks of it, WOW is a success and they are pushing Invicta product as well; sometimes the same product as Shop but far cheaper. Their customer service is legendary and far surpasses the complaints with SNBC and invicta&#8217;s  CS blackhole. </p>
<p>AFTER tbe Michael Davis sticky on watchgeeks throwing Daniel Mink under the bus followed a day later with a Mink email blast announcing the planned termination of the WG/Renato relationship and launch of   Renatogeeks.com and RenatoTV, two of the five major TV brands are now representing themselves with a major web presence and streaming internet tv shows. Are the remaining few far behind? How will ShopNBC and Invicta fair? Where once it looked as if ShopNBC was becoming THE Invicta channel, they have started to introduce SkyMalls favorite brand, Stauer, as well as a higher profile for Android.</p>
<p>Another competitive factor is Jim Skelton and where he&#8217;ll end up in September. Could Android be the next to go solo with Jim at the sales helm pushing Wing&#8217;s dreams to the fiends? Or is he headed to JTV as some are claiming and what will that do for the trailer park network and how it competes with ShopNBC?</p>
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