Sicuro Watchboxes: The Next Bomb?

January 24, 2010

I dropped into this event off and on. It seems like a better name would have been “10 Hours of Sicuro Watch Boxes” or maybe “18 Hours of Non-Specific Watch Hosts”.

WITH the hiring of Bill McGarth as VP of QA, I suspected that there would be a move at the network to address the complaints of poor product quality. The most recent example being the Invicta Subaqua Noma III Ocean Quest dive kit beset by an apparent design flaw. It appears that the screws that attach the band to the case are too soft and the threads too small which results in striped screws. Interestingly enough, they are still pushing these kits during the event at nearly $450 bucks. It’s sharing the spotlight with the next OTV that i suspect will meet with complaints: the Sicuro Watch box.

The sales people speak of its solid, MDF construction implying that this is a mark of quality. MDF is solid and well suited to many applications. A proported luxury piece if furniture is not one of them.

MDF has one glaring drawback, and that is shrinking in low humidity. I suspect that watchgeeks.net may see an influx of complaints regarding cracks at the seams over the next few months probably starting in the southwest and spreading to the northeast during the next cold snap as furnaces kick into high gear and dry out homes. Maybe its the studio lights; maybe it’s the tv I’m watching or a combination of both, but the polyurethane appears to be cracked on the back edge which I can only assume to have been caused by sliding the drawers in and out during presentations, much like the on air stripping of the SAN OQ lug bolts reveals products that don’t hold up. ShopNBC would be wise to set up a lab with a couple of industrial engineers to devise machines to simulate these actions, much like IKEA has done. This would go a long way to simulate real world use and correct design flaws and mediocre craftsmanship. How are Skelton and company going to spin this one over at watcgeeks? In a one response regarding the SAN OQ he really is condescending and rather forceful in pushing the ‘operator error’ argument. Maybe they’ll suggest buying a humidifier to run in the room where the box is kept? Wonder what the J number will be?

ON to the interior of the box, and the supple and luxurious French velour that we’re told isn’t simply, velvet, but something more. Maybe more synthetic as most velour is made of polyester, which is what gives it a shine. Compare that to velvet which, in higher end products is produced from silk.

A few other highlights included Daniel Mink contrasting the far superior push button lug strap changing system on the Renato Beauty to the unnamed “other brands that use a flawsed and difficult” hex screw system. See Invicta’s Subaqua Noma III Ocean Quest.

I also like when Mink retorted to Skelton’s “nice tie, you got that from me” comment with, “You have a nice hairy tie” which was a reference to the Duce Bigalow, open shirt that Skelton had on. Surely that is driving sales to women. In this same segment Douche Bigalow also made a comment about being able to “get (a Renato being presented) cheaper of the Internet…” A direct reference to a blog that I wrote using a Renato for sale at watchgeeks.net (a forum co-owned by Michael Davis and Jim Skelton) to illustrate how watchgeeks is in direct competition with SNBC due to it being nearly $200 cheaper. He can yuck it up, but I suspect that the traffic coming directly from that blog to the watchgeeks site is the primary reason that WG site went dark.

All in all it was just 27 hours of the same 15 or so products in rotation. One looks forward to the day when Temple guides the network toward a wider and more exciting product base.

If the network brass are smart, they’re going to make this adjustment sooner than later.

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9 Responses to “Sicuro Watchboxes: The Next Bomb?”

  1. jr Says:

    The Sicuro boxes look like Montgomery Ward’s sloppy seconds. They’ll probably start calling them “Swiss made”. I love watching Skelton and Davis try to change the Invicta straps with their piggish hands

  2. darksider Says:

    garbage watch boxes. So many better ones at similar prices or just a tad more. Just another example of poor quality being sold as a high end pruduct and having the value pays as the hook.

    Corona Gorda over the weekend along with his faithful mentor the Lalo, made some claims that were whoppers by any standard.

    As claimed by Jim Skelton & Eyal Lalo during the 27 hours of mundane watches at shopnbc aka ShopInvicta. The watch in question was a SAN III with the Platinum V 7750 movement. There is no such animal yet these two continue to throw stuff up against the walls to see what sticks.

    http://watchlords.forumotion.net/general-discussion-about-watches-f1/platinum-v-7750-t158.htm

  3. Jim Skelton Says:

    Sorry darksider,I mean Koimaster, but you can review any and all shows for up to 2 weeks on http://www.shopnbc.tv. Go back and watch. As many know, Tim is the only person who says Platinum series Valjoux 7750, I have never once uttered those words. We all have ways of getting our point across, and Tim clearly is calling out the quality level of the movement by attaching this name to it. I do not recall him claiming that this was any sort of official label however. Once again, your facts are skewed (as with everything you’ve ever said about me) because you had a little bit of info that SEEMED to be true as it was told to you, then you ran on with it filling in the blanks with the fantasies in your head.


  4. Corona Gorda,

    I would have thought that with age you would have gained wisdom and know when to just ignore people and let them ramble unless you really need to defend yourself unless the past truths are to painful?

    I would suggest you sit back and say nothing and let your reputation be your defense or maybe you should really defend yourself, your reputation aint all that good.

    I wonder if there is a statue of limitations on grand larceny. What was the name of that cigar store you worked at in Alexandria?

  5. Jacky Rotten Says:

    Jim, are you pissed at darksider because of the callout thread at GayWatch about the fake Russian Diver/utter-bullshit-lies that you a Eyal perpetrate about the so-called 1959 allotment of Invicta Russian Divers to the Russian Navy?

    If you wonder why some people find you/GW/Eyal/IWG so thoroughly repulsive, it might be because of the web of lies you weave.

  6. darksider Says:

    “Jim Skelton Says:

    January 28, 2010 at 5:05 pm
    Sorry darksider,I mean Koimaster, but you can review any and all shows for up to 2 weeks on http://www.shopnbc.tv. Go back and watch. As many know, Tim is the only person who says Platinum series Valjoux 7750, I have never once uttered those words. We all have ways of getting our point across, and Tim clearly is calling out the quality level of the movement by attaching this name to it. I do not recall him claiming that this was any sort of official label however. Once again, your facts are skewed (as with everything you’ve ever said about me) because you had a little bit of info that SEEMED to be true as it was told to you, then you ran on with it filling in the blanks with the fantasies in your head.”

    Dear Jim aka Corona Gorda aka fatecrusher aka Ommpah Lupah,aka Tom Braiser aka Turd, Aka In Cognito….. and a few more……

    Shall we review your claims…….

    Seiko/ Invicta
    Russian Diver ( show me and everyone else the plans and orders for one)

    Your expertise in Horology

    Your expertise as a Cigar store owner

    Your expertise in Portland with that view in your apartment

    Your management skills at Sunglass Hut

    Your ” I this watch”….. I do want you to bring them to court by the way.

    Your finance & sales skills at cigar forums.

    I love this one……

    04-03-2009, 09:02 PM
    Concerning Invicta and their involvement here

    You denied Invicta supporting the WG site.

    Reality:

    Michael/Bruce,

    Ok, just talked to Eyal…

    He thinks that doing the raffle may looks as tacky as asking for donations. He offered up the 5 grand to cover the 2 year server contract.

    All he asks for in return is that he have a commitment for equal time (2 years) from us on exclusivity, and he would appreciate first right to refusal when the time is up.

    I stressed to him again that we are opening a Renato subforum, and again he was fine with that.

    So it is up to you two……

    If we proceed, then Michael needs to contact Eyal with an overview of the contract, and the contact info so that his accounting department can issue a payment directly to them.
    __________________
    #2
    09-03-2008, 09:10 PM

    meijin
    WatchGeeks Owner
    True WatchGeek Join Date: Feb 2008
    Location: Atlanta, GA
    Posts: 8,197

    Re: Ok, looks like Invicta is our official sponsor

    Fundamentally, I don’t have a problem with that as it looks as though Eyal is being reasonable…

    As to the contract…there isn’t one….it is all done online and via my credit card…I don’t have anything to send them. And after looking at the website, I don’t see any options for that. Is that going to be a problem?
    __________________
    Michael

    Argument is meant to reveal the truth, not to create it. ~ Edward de Bono

    #3
    09-03-2008, 09:11 PM

    jskelton
    WatchGeeks Owner
    True WatchGeek Join Date: Feb 2008
    Posts: 5,229

    Just figure out a way that invicta can pay it directly for us. It’s the only way that thier business accounting can write it off.

    Reality

    From : “Jim Skelton” <watchguy@ |

    Date : Tue, Jun 02, 2009 12:41 PM

    No.. Marianne WAS going to do an interview at WTW. I spoke with her a few days ago.

    Once she began reading the vile things posted there (like posts by "temp" about me when I was injured recently), she does not want to associate with, or participate with a forum like that. -Jim

    I have a much longer list as you can guess. Have you told the the public yet about your threats to me via email?

    Have you let the fuzzy bunnies as you called them know that you and others in your ownership group and admin group used registration information to attempt to blackmail me into silence and then sent out personal information in an email blast, endangering members of my family.

    One of your own about a similar issue when some idiot left the forums public:

    srebo70
    WatchGeeks Moderator
    True WatchGeek Join Date: Mar 2008

    That feeling came from the fact that my personal contact information is now out in the open and the fact that I received an email from "someone" last night that I do not know telling me they have all of this information REALLY bothered me. Don't get me wrong, I can handle MOST things that come along, but when something as ridiculous as this can possibly have an effect on my wife (given that my home phone and address is now out there for public view) THAT really bothers me.

    And this by the same mod

    The only "mean spirited" issue in any of this is the way the information was obtained, how it could be potentially used, and our personal contact information in the hands of the people that would do this.

    See you in court

    from the Cool Kids Forum

    Watchbear- Did any of you guys see Idiot joes last post? He spelled psychotherapy psco-treapy! What a fool! He needs a good kick in the nutz.

    Michael- Will he EVER stop posting here?

    Bruce- I hear he has been tutoring LooseCannon on syntax and sentence structure. These guys are such ass-hats I can't even take it.

    Jim- He couldn't get a clue in a field of clues, dressed as a clue in mating season. All of these guys are fuzzy bunnies!

  7. betterskills Says:

    I will say that “He couldn’t get a clue in a field of clues, dressed as a clue in mating season…” is pretty funny. I didn’t know he had it in him; but then again that could be from a movie or something.

  8. darksider Says:

    “betterskills Says:

    February 9, 2010 at 6:07 pm
    I will say that “He couldn’t get a clue in a field of clues, dressed as a clue in mating season…” is pretty funny. I didn’t know he had it in him; but then again that could be from a movie or something.”

    too bad they were all referring to Big Joe, a hero during 9/11 and one of the nicest people out there.

    A lot of class by these people.(dripping sarcasam)

  9. Diane Says:

    I am looking for a Sicuro hanging 20 watch display case. Shop NBC carried it but they have sold out. Are there any in your stock? It sold on Shop NBC under item # J178695. Please let me know if there are any left that I can purchase.


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